The Normal Christian Life

What does ”ordinary Christianity” look like exactly? Using Scripture, Church history and personal testimony, two Catholic priests, Frs. Michael and Chris Trummer, and Mary Bielski offer a renewed vision of what our lives can be like as Christians. Far from being ”ordinary”, the normal Christian life is an entirely new life empowered by the Holy Spirit -- drawing upon a divine inheritance, manifesting supernatural power, and bearing a staggering promise of glory.

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7 days ago

As the Church concludes the Jubilee Year of Hope, the hosts discuss the profound significance of hope in the Christian life. They explain that hope is more than just a feel-good sentiment, highlighting its roots as a theological virtue that is central to overcoming adversity and recognizing God's hand in the midst of trials. They offer practical ways to cultivate this virtue day by day, face unavoidable suffering with faith, and keep hope alive in the dark times. This conversation emphasizes that true hope is anchored in the character and promises of God, surpassing mere human optimism.
00:00 Introduction to Hope
00:13 The Theological Virtues
01:12 A Poem on Hope
03:01 Hope in Practice
4:34 Hope Amidst Anxiety
07:43 Hope as a Choice
17:44 Hope and Suffering
24:54 Hope Beyond This Life
35:46 Acknowledging Discouragement and Hopelessness
36:30 Signs of Lacking Hope
37:25 The Importance of Dreaming with God
38:58 Living with Hope and Avoiding Cynicism
41:26 Balancing Grief and Hope
59:51 Daily Habits to Cultivate Hope
01:05:27 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Friday Dec 05, 2025

Join hosts Fr. Michael Trummer, Fr. Christopher Trummer, and Mary Bielski as they discuss what it truly means to be holy. This episode tackles the common misconception that holiness is boring and instead presents it as an adventurous pursuit of God. They explore how genuine holiness involves our humanity, unique personalities, and the transformation by God's grace. Be inspired by the call to live a life set apart and discover what makes sainthood appealing in today's world. Whether you're curious about holiness or seeking to deepen your spiritual journey, this conversation will embolden you to embrace the adventure of becoming a saint.
 
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00:00 Introduction to Holiness
01:36 The Call to Adventure
03:17 Understanding True Holiness
04:54 Inspiration from the Saints
08:26 The Battle for Holiness
23:15 Embracing Trials and Suffering
34:35 The Radical Commitment to Holiness
35:34 Inoculated Against Authentic Christianity
36:02 The Joy of Following Christ Fully
36:30 Living a Life in the Spirit
37:47 The Process of Acquiring a Taste for God

Tuesday Oct 28, 2025

In this episode, Father Michael Trummer and Father Christopher Trummer take on the often-misunderstood topic of religion—a word that many Christians today regard with suspicion. They acknowledge that much of the criticism directed at “being religious” arises from real problems: hypocrisy, self-reliance, transactional love, and an overemphasis on outward appearances. Yet, rather than dismissing religion altogether, the hosts argue that it is a divine reality—instituted by God in the Old Testament, fulfilled and transformed by Christ, and sustained in the life of the Church. They invite listeners to recover a renewed understanding of religion as a virtue: a purified way of relating to God through ordered worship, teaching, and community.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:35 Words and Semantics
01:55 Religion vs. Relationship
04:52 Criticisms of Religious Practices
12:36 Self-Reliance and Striving in Faith
28:30 The Virtue of Religion
33:19 Forgotten Passages and Jesus' Jewish Roots
34:15 Old Testament Laws and Christian Practices
37:05 The Early Christian Worship and Eucharist
39:17 Development of Christian Liturgy
45:25 Authority and Hierarchy in the Church
52:58 The Role of Rituals and Symbols in Worship
01:01:42 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Tuesday Oct 14, 2025

Join Fr. Christopher Trummer and Fr. Michael Trummer in a heartfelt discussion on the challenges and importance of boldly preaching the gospel in today's society. In light of recent political violence, including the assassination of conservative speaker Charlie Kirk, the hosts explore what it means to speak the truth, even when it leads to opposition. Drawing from the life of Jesus and various scriptures, they address the balance between being loving and proclaiming the truth. They also share personal experiences and practical advice on overcoming the fear of conflict and rejection. This episode encourages believers to be courageous in their faith and to rely on the Holy Spirit for boldness in standing up for what is right.Support Our Mission through Patreon – patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast00:00 Introduction: The Challenge of Speaking the Truth00:52 The Complexity of Love and Conflict01:46 Temptations and Challenges for Priests02:42 Reflecting on Charlie Kirk's Assassination06:38 Jesus' Teachings on Persecution08:30 Balancing Love and Boldness13:01 The Role of Priests and Parents14:42 The Importance of Moral Teachings18:59 Living Boldly in Faith44:12 Practical Advice for Overcoming Fear51:47 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Wednesday Sep 24, 2025

In this episode of Normal Christian Life, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer, joined by Mary Bielski, have an inspiring conversation with Sean Smith. Sean shares his journey of discovering the gift of prophecy and how it has profoundly impacted his evangelism efforts. From personal testimonies to practical tips on how to hear God's voice, the discussion covers the importance of the prophetic in today's ministry. They also delve into the current move of God to bring about revival and unity in the church. Listen in to be encouraged and equipped to recognize and act on God's voice in your own life.
 
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:55 Sean Smith's Testimony: Early Life and Challenges
06:41 A Life-Changing Encounter with Jesus
10:33 The Power of Prophetic Evangelism
14:49 Practical Examples of Prophetic Evangelism
18:29 Real-Life Stories and Impact
24:11 Discerning God's Voice in Everyday Situations
32:40 The Door to the Spirit Realm
32:59 Evangelism and God's Power Tools
33:35 A Personal Encounter with Prophecy
36:14 The Role of the Holy Spirit
38:09 Prophetic Evangelism in Action
40:47 The Simplicity of Evangelization
46:36 Hearing God's Voice
55:24 A Time of Revival and Harvest
01:01:34 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Friday Aug 29, 2025

In this episode, hosts Fr. Michael, Fr. Christopher, and Mary Bielski are joined by guest Catherine Porter to discuss the often overlooked yet pivotal topic of simplicity and detachment from material possessions in the Christian life. The episode explores how Jesus emphasized simplicity throughout the Gospel and how this principle is intricately tied to our relationship with God. Through personal testimonies, scriptural insights, and theological reflections, the conversation reveals that aligning our hearts with God's will in terms of wealth and possessions is essential for true joy, freedom, and holistic discipleship. Join us as we delve into how living simply not only deepens our intimacy with God but also opens avenues for greater generosity, and ultimately, a more fulfilled and spiritually rich life.

Monday Aug 11, 2025

In this especially vulnerable episode, Fr. Michael Trummer, Fr. Christopher Trummer, and Mary Bielski delve into the complex issue of woundedness within the Church. They explore how many people struggle with their faith because of inconsistency and hypocrisy on the part of Christians, whether fellow believers in the pew or priests and other leaders. Acknowledging the hurt and the legitimate anger and indignation, they discuss the need for forgiveness, accountability, and effective communication in healing these wounds. The conversation aims to provide hope and practical steps for those who have been hurt within the Church, so that all of us can cling to Christ through intercession, compassion, and by staying engaged in the community.Support Our Mission through Patreon: patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast

Saturday Aug 02, 2025

In this inspiring episode, we explore the profound power and authority that believers possess through their faith in Jesus Christ. Special guest Robby Dawkins, a Christian evangelist, shares his story of coming to faith in Christ and discovering the power of the Holy Spirit. He recounts many miraculous testimonies of healing and even a man who was raised from the dead. Robby emphasizes that believers are not waiting on God for power; they already have it and simply need to step into it with confidence. The discussion highlights the importance of obedience to God's call, the role of prophecy, and the radical efficacy of power evangelization. Through personal testimonies and biblical insights, this episode challenges Christians to activate their faith, embrace the supernatural, and become bold witnesses of the Gospel.

Sunday Jul 20, 2025

Clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin returns for a conversation about the intersections of faith, psychology, and inner healing. They discuss common issues within modern psychology, the historical evolution of psychological theory, and how Christian perspectives can provide deeper insights and healing. The conversation explores the significance of emotional integration, the relationship between spiritual and psychological healing, and challenges the compartmentalization of the human experience. This episode brings a unique perspective on how faith and psychology can work together for fuller human flourishing.***Support Our Mission through Patreon: patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast

Saturday Jul 05, 2025

In this enlightening episode, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer welcome clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin to explore the complex topic of deliverance. Dr. Tobin shares his unique journey from atheism to faith, his experience with exorcisms, and how his background in psychology intersects with spiritual healing. They discuss common misconceptions about the demonic, how to properly approach deliverance, and emphasize the importance of relationship with Christ over formulaic solutions. Dr. Tobin also delves into the role of intimate prayer and the healing of memories in achieving spiritual freedom. Tune in for a deep dive into how the power of the gospel and the love of God can set us free.
 
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00:00 Understanding the Demonic: Common Misconceptions
00:46 Introducing Dr. Sean Tobin: A Journey from Atheism to Faith
02:01 Dr. Tobin's Conversion and Early Experiences
04:14 Integrating Faith and Psychology
08:12 Deliverance Through Intimacy with Christ
16:31 The Role of Exorcism and Deliverance Prayers
22:10 A Case Study: Healing Through Inner Prayer
31:44 Balancing Awareness of Spiritual Warfare
38:04 Psychoanalysis and Superstition
39:10 Power of Renunciation Prayers
40:05 Jesus' Encounters on the Road to Jericho
41:21 Command Prayers and Acts of Love
42:34 Jesus' Focus on Identity and Restoration
44:12 Moana and the Power of True Identity
48:49 The Role of Demons and Deliverance
55:50 Healing Through the Gospel
01:04:26 Inner Healing and Memory Prayer
01:16:48 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

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