The Normal Christian Life
What does ”ordinary Christianity” look like exactly? Using Scripture, Church history and personal testimony, two Catholic priests, Frs. Michael and Chris Trummer, and Mary Bielski offer a renewed vision of what our lives can be like as Christians. Far from being ”ordinary”, the normal Christian life is an entirely new life empowered by the Holy Spirit -- drawing upon a divine inheritance, manifesting supernatural power, and bearing a staggering promise of glory.
Episodes

Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
Tuesday Oct 14, 2025
Join Fr. Christopher Trummer and Fr. Michael Trummer in a heartfelt discussion on the challenges and importance of boldly preaching the gospel in today's society. In light of recent political violence, including the assassination of conservative speaker Charlie Kirk, the hosts explore what it means to speak the truth, even when it leads to opposition. Drawing from the life of Jesus and various scriptures, they address the balance between being loving and proclaiming the truth. They also share personal experiences and practical advice on overcoming the fear of conflict and rejection. This episode encourages believers to be courageous in their faith and to rely on the Holy Spirit for boldness in standing up for what is right.Support Our Mission through Patreon – patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast00:00 Introduction: The Challenge of Speaking the Truth00:52 The Complexity of Love and Conflict01:46 Temptations and Challenges for Priests02:42 Reflecting on Charlie Kirk's Assassination06:38 Jesus' Teachings on Persecution08:30 Balancing Love and Boldness13:01 The Role of Priests and Parents14:42 The Importance of Moral Teachings18:59 Living Boldly in Faith44:12 Practical Advice for Overcoming Fear51:47 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
In this episode of Normal Christian Life, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer, joined by Mary Bielski, have an inspiring conversation with Sean Smith. Sean shares his journey of discovering the gift of prophecy and how it has profoundly impacted his evangelism efforts. From personal testimonies to practical tips on how to hear God's voice, the discussion covers the importance of the prophetic in today's ministry. They also delve into the current move of God to bring about revival and unity in the church. Listen in to be encouraged and equipped to recognize and act on God's voice in your own life.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:55 Sean Smith's Testimony: Early Life and Challenges
06:41 A Life-Changing Encounter with Jesus
10:33 The Power of Prophetic Evangelism
14:49 Practical Examples of Prophetic Evangelism
18:29 Real-Life Stories and Impact
24:11 Discerning God's Voice in Everyday Situations
32:40 The Door to the Spirit Realm
32:59 Evangelism and God's Power Tools
33:35 A Personal Encounter with Prophecy
36:14 The Role of the Holy Spirit
38:09 Prophetic Evangelism in Action
40:47 The Simplicity of Evangelization
46:36 Hearing God's Voice
55:24 A Time of Revival and Harvest
01:01:34 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Friday Aug 29, 2025
Friday Aug 29, 2025
In this episode, hosts Fr. Michael, Fr. Christopher, and Mary Bielski are joined by guest Catherine Porter to discuss the often overlooked yet pivotal topic of simplicity and detachment from material possessions in the Christian life. The episode explores how Jesus emphasized simplicity throughout the Gospel and how this principle is intricately tied to our relationship with God. Through personal testimonies, scriptural insights, and theological reflections, the conversation reveals that aligning our hearts with God's will in terms of wealth and possessions is essential for true joy, freedom, and holistic discipleship. Join us as we delve into how living simply not only deepens our intimacy with God but also opens avenues for greater generosity, and ultimately, a more fulfilled and spiritually rich life.

Monday Aug 11, 2025
Monday Aug 11, 2025
In this especially vulnerable episode, Fr. Michael Trummer, Fr. Christopher Trummer, and Mary Bielski delve into the complex issue of woundedness within the Church. They explore how many people struggle with their faith because of inconsistency and hypocrisy on the part of Christians, whether fellow believers in the pew or priests and other leaders. Acknowledging the hurt and the legitimate anger and indignation, they discuss the need for forgiveness, accountability, and effective communication in healing these wounds. The conversation aims to provide hope and practical steps for those who have been hurt within the Church, so that all of us can cling to Christ through intercession, compassion, and by staying engaged in the community.Support Our Mission through Patreon: patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast

Saturday Aug 02, 2025
Saturday Aug 02, 2025
In this inspiring episode, we explore the profound power and authority that believers possess through their faith in Jesus Christ. Special guest Robby Dawkins, a Christian evangelist, shares his story of coming to faith in Christ and discovering the power of the Holy Spirit. He recounts many miraculous testimonies of healing and even a man who was raised from the dead. Robby emphasizes that believers are not waiting on God for power; they already have it and simply need to step into it with confidence. The discussion highlights the importance of obedience to God's call, the role of prophecy, and the radical efficacy of power evangelization. Through personal testimonies and biblical insights, this episode challenges Christians to activate their faith, embrace the supernatural, and become bold witnesses of the Gospel.

Sunday Jul 20, 2025
Sunday Jul 20, 2025
Clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin returns for a conversation about the intersections of faith, psychology, and inner healing. They discuss common issues within modern psychology, the historical evolution of psychological theory, and how Christian perspectives can provide deeper insights and healing. The conversation explores the significance of emotional integration, the relationship between spiritual and psychological healing, and challenges the compartmentalization of the human experience. This episode brings a unique perspective on how faith and psychology can work together for fuller human flourishing.***Support Our Mission through Patreon: patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast

Saturday Jul 05, 2025
Saturday Jul 05, 2025
In this enlightening episode, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer welcome clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin to explore the complex topic of deliverance. Dr. Tobin shares his unique journey from atheism to faith, his experience with exorcisms, and how his background in psychology intersects with spiritual healing. They discuss common misconceptions about the demonic, how to properly approach deliverance, and emphasize the importance of relationship with Christ over formulaic solutions. Dr. Tobin also delves into the role of intimate prayer and the healing of memories in achieving spiritual freedom. Tune in for a deep dive into how the power of the gospel and the love of God can set us free.
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00:00 Understanding the Demonic: Common Misconceptions
00:46 Introducing Dr. Sean Tobin: A Journey from Atheism to Faith
02:01 Dr. Tobin's Conversion and Early Experiences
04:14 Integrating Faith and Psychology
08:12 Deliverance Through Intimacy with Christ
16:31 The Role of Exorcism and Deliverance Prayers
22:10 A Case Study: Healing Through Inner Prayer
31:44 Balancing Awareness of Spiritual Warfare
38:04 Psychoanalysis and Superstition
39:10 Power of Renunciation Prayers
40:05 Jesus' Encounters on the Road to Jericho
41:21 Command Prayers and Acts of Love
42:34 Jesus' Focus on Identity and Restoration
44:12 Moana and the Power of True Identity
48:49 The Role of Demons and Deliverance
55:50 Healing Through the Gospel
01:04:26 Inner Healing and Memory Prayer
01:16:48 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

Thursday Jun 19, 2025
Thursday Jun 19, 2025
We often want God to speak louder and more clearly, but the invitation always for us to draw near to Him, to recognize and appreciate the ways He is already speaking. Following our earlier episode on hearing God's voice, we now dive deeper into this central aspect of prayer. We explore various conditions and postures of the heart and offer practical tips to help you better tune in to God's voice. Discover key elements such as cultivating faith and expectation, maintaining a positive image of God and self, practicing stillness and silence, desiring God's will, engaging in praise and gratitude, and the need for discernment.

Wednesday May 21, 2025
Wednesday May 21, 2025
In this episode of 'The Normal Christian Life,' hosts Fathers Michael and Father Christopher Trummer, along with guest Laura Shoulders, discuss the common struggle of hearing God's voice. They explore various ways through which God communicates, including through thoughts, imagination, feelings, conscience, and dreams. The conversation emphasizes that everyone is made to hear God's voice and that being attuned to subtle impressions and the conditions that foster a receptive environment are key. They share personal experiences and practical tips on recognizing and interpreting these divine communications.
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00:00 Introduction and Struggles with Hearing God's Voice
00:55 Personal Experiences and Struggles
01:36 Understanding Our Identity in Hearing God's Voice
03:11 Biblical Foundations and Personal Reflections
05:08 The Role of the Holy Spirit and Personal Revelation
06:48 Practical Insights on Hearing God's Voice
11:31 The Subtlety of God's Communication
23:12 Impressions and Conscience as God's Voice
35:13 Understanding God's Patience and Kindness
35:41 Spiritual Senses and Impressions
36:17 Feelings as a Way God Communicates
37:40 Unique Ways God Speaks to Us
38:14 The Broader Context of God's Voice
39:13 Experiencing God Through Feelings
42:00 The Power of Images in Communication
44:27 The Role of Imagination in Spiritual Perception
53:27 God's Communication Through Dreams
01:00:45 Highlighting as a Form of Divine Communication
01:06:56 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

Wednesday May 14, 2025
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Join hosts Mary Bielski, Fr. Christopher, and Fr. Michael with special guest Laura Shoulders as they delve into the often misunderstood and overlooked gift of prophecy within the Christian community. In this episode of 'The Normal Christian Life,' they discuss the biblical foundations, personal experiences, and misconceptions of prophecy. They aim to demystify what prophecy really means and how it plays a crucial role in edifying and loving others in the contemporary church. Discover how prophecy is not just an Old Testament relic, but a vibrant part of authentic Christianity, designed for the renewal of the church and personal spiritual growth. This episode also provides practical insights and stories that illustrate the transformative power of hearing and sharing God's voice today.
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00:00 Introduction to Prophecy
00:20 Personal Experiences with Prophecy
01:21 Prophecy in the Catholic Church
03:29 Understanding Old Testament Prophets
05:26 The New Covenant and Prophecy
06:48 Prophecy in Modern Times
09:47 Personal Testimonies and Stories
22:26 Prophecy vs. Fortune Telling
26:30 Challenges and Misconceptions
29:23 Evangelization and Prophecy
33:21 Unexpected Encounter with a Buddhist
34:18 Discerning Spirits and Prophetic Gifts
36:26 The Importance of Prophecy in the New Testament
46:09 Personal Stories of Prophecy
49:59 Encouragement to Seek Prophetic Gifts
01:03:35 Closing Thoughts and Prayer






